Ashley P Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 To you city slickers usin' 'lectic cars.....let's have a discussion 'bout the future. Ya'll want to drive electric cars. How much power does that take for Nashville's cars to swap to electric? The other concern, "the left" is in favor of no fossil fuels and all renewable energy, including solar. I've got a "salesman" leaving me messages wanting to talk about putting solar panels on my farm. No more target shooting? No more food from my farm? What if all farms just make electricity so your electric car can drive to the empty grocery store? The current (pun intended) logic will lead to doom for the USofA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 Edit to add: John, you said it's about "the bottom line, not politics". I see your point, but political junk is driving this electric surge. I'll bet $1000 there is government money behind the people wanting to rent/lease farmland (for solar panels) for about 8 times more than competitive farmers pay. There are farm subsidies being fought by solar subsidies. Solar has a HUGE $$$$ advantage, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 https://www.agriculture.com/technology/the-solar-power-bonanza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim9916 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I can’t answer most of your questions. I am a fan of technology and advancement not politics. At this point I don’t have any use for either side. Hydrogen fuel cells may win out eventually but EVs are here for now and probably for a good while. The problem that I have seen first hand with solar and farming in general is the landowners kids have no interest in continuing to farm. This particular individual saw it as a way ultimately preserve his land and still get paid. He was leasing for 50 years but will own the land. This was in East TN. How do you farm when no one who wants to be a farmer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 I'm a "fan of technology" if said tech doesn't make the user dependent upon it. I've oversimplified the "green left" and "smog right", but subsidies are political and are driving (another pun) some of the electric car/solar panel stuff. There will be someone who wants to farm, well, at least row crop. Dairy is another story. Cows are needy compared to corn/beans. Please don't tune out of the political realm. And if you eat, be aware that current politics taken to the extreme would result inlots of electricity when the sun is shining, and very little food. I'm not a big producer, about 846,300,000 calories of corn. At 2000 calories/person/day, that'll feed 423,150 people for a day. I guess if I go solar you can get about 1/2 of Nashville to fast for a day and nobody will notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) I'll just put this here.... https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/national/newsroom/releases/?cid=NRCSEPRD1952625 Edited September 30, 2022 by mstrpth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 ^ Urgh. *cries a little more down deep inside* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, mstrpth said: I just put this here.... https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/national/newsroom/releases/?cid=NRCSEPRD1952625 My garden, used for my families purposes only, benefits the whole USA. That's according to the SCOTUS ruling from 1944, Wickard vs Filburn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just tell us where your garden is and EVERYONE involved with it. We're the govt and we're here to help! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtoy Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 My worthless 2 cents. Automakers love electric cars because the simplicity of them makes them hugely profitable (or will). Less material cost, less labor etc. We are already paying stupid high prices so this to me is a no brainer for the auto industry. BTW, I’ve tried arguing the non-panacea that these are even with the likes of Johnny Lieberman. You will not win this argument as they have drank the from the nectar of the progressive nutsak. That said, the challenge is the rare earths and extensive additional use of petroleum products required to make said batteries. im not shitting on electric cars as I have said all along, when I can fill one up with the same convenience as I can a ICE vehicle I will be in. The power is amazing, the ability to alter and change platforms is also cool. But no way would I want to sit and wait for a charger to be available on a road trip let alone the wait for the charging. the zealots will say, ( well most of us charge at home so blah!) Fine, but many don’t and if you use a truck like a truck you ain’t getting far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I believe the hummer charges in 5 days on a standard outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 19 hours ago, mstrpth said: I believe the hummer charges in 5 days on a standard outlet. Screw that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 TVA says conserve electricity because of high cold weather demand. Good thing I don't own an electric car, huh? https://www.westkentuckystar.com/News/Local-Regional/WKRECC-Updates-Power-Demand-Situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 I doubt a 30 minute blackout will really impact your EV experience very much. As I was out an about in the frigid weather, I don't remember seeing many vehicles out at all. Fun fact: Gas and diesel pumps also tend to run on electricity these days and the guy with a gas burner sitting at the station with an empty tank is in just as bad of shape as the guy with an EV and no battery left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 Non-fun facts: TVA is struggling to meet demand now, and is closing existing coal plants. The future looks .... dark. And cold. My wife saw a FB discussion about rolling power outages in TN. The discussion had almost a negative amount of sound logic. *bang head on wall* https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/tennessee-valley-authority-plans-shut-coal-plants-by-2035-2021-05-03/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I wonder how much battery loss you experience with negative temps? - real question not a jab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley P Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, mstrpth said: I wonder how much battery loss you experience with negative temps? - real question not a jab. For real. Think about how much power it takes to heat the cabin. That'll put a hurtin' on a battery when temps are single digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disney Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 It takes quite a bit of energy. Not only are you heating the cabin, but the battery module is also heated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrpth Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I'm seeing alot of pretty bad reviews on the lightning. Losing as much as half the bat life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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